“Who You Are“ or “Where You Stand”!
In essence, the issue of “who you are” as compared to “where you stand“ may be summed up in the following statement: “By declaring and or by defining who you are, you do not define where you stand, but when you declare where you stand, you have also concurrently defined who you are without discussing the matter.”
In other words, when I inform a judge by declaring to him that I stand in the Kingdom of God, and ask him to declare to me whether or not his court stands in God’s Kingdom, that judge already knows that I am a real, live man of God, and he knows that I am not a “straw-man”, without my having ever brought up that issue.
However, if I declare to that same judge that I am not a straw-man, or that I am not a corporate persona of the state and that I am a real live man of God, that judge still has every right according to man’s law to do everything in his power to entice me into volunteering to enter into “his” jurisdiction. The public record is replete with examples of men and woman that have rightly declared that they are real live men or woman of God, yet, these same men or woman have been subsequently tricked into volunteering to step into the judge’s jurisdiction, simply because they
did not know where they should be standing! In fact, the mere act of your offering evidence in the form of argument over the issue of the “name” implies that you have tacitly and obviously unwittingly, accepted the judge’s alleged authority to rule on that issue!
In short, “ who you are” is an issue designed to aid in the court’s trickery. That is why they always start with that issue by asking for a “name”, or confirmation of a name. Virtually any response you offer in direct response to the issue of a name can only be accepted by them as an offer of evidence concerning the issue of the “name”, not the issue of jurisdiction. Even if you “win” the argument with your evidence of “who you are”, or “who you are not, you still have not dealt with the more important issue of “where you stand”, and in fact you have volunteered to enter their jurisdiction but only as a “man”! Again, the public record is replete with examples where the courts have ruled against real live men and woman of God for this very reason.
By ignoring the issue of the name; by not responding to it at all; by simply going right to the issue of “where you stand” YOU will be the one trapping the judge as opposed to him potentially trapping you into his jurisdiction. The judge will not be able to tell you that his court stands in God’s Kingdom any more than he will be able to tell you it does not stand in God’s Kingdom, and until he addresses your simple question of where his court stands, he does not have any jurisdiction to continue with his quest to have you address “his” issue of a name.
Why do you think the police, the prosecutors, the courts, or all of the other “persons”, always ask you what your name is? Why do you think they persist on this issue so adamantly, often demanding that you “give them your name”? The answer may surprise you.
They really do not care who you are, but they really do care “where” you are! And in most cases, they do know the difference! Basically, they only have jurisdiction over you as a man when you offer to “go” someplace with them. You must “go” into their jurisdiction before they have any control over you. Your name, whether or not it is in upper, or lower case or some mixture therof, is not the real issue. Whether you are a man of God or a “straw-man” cannot be the issue, because YOU cannot be a straw man even if you wanted to be. Your “standing” is the issue!
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There are only two possible places for you to “stand”. You have your entitlement to God’s gift of being able to stand in God’s Kingdom. And you have the option of “stepping” out of God’s Kingdom and into the kingdoms of man. There are many ways the tricksters may utilize to induce, coerce, intimidate or influence you to step into one of their imaginary “kingdoms”, but the result is always the same. The principle result of stepping into anyone of their jurisdictions is that you have voluntarily stepped out of God’s kingdom – the only true sanctuary.
Quite possibly the most successful and most common manner of trickery the courts employ to entrap men or woman of God, is to ask this simple, yet seemingly helpful and harmless question; “do you understand?” Now they may ask if you understand what is going on, or if you understand their procedures, or if you understand what they are saying, or any variety of things, but they will always ask if you “under” stand them. In the old established English language, the use of the words “under” and “stand”, were often used to describe relationships between landlords and subjects, or between those in authority and those in subjection to that authority. In other words, a landlord might very well state to his tenants, that they “stand under” his authority. The English language is also replete with examples of reversing word order within commonly used phrases, yet maintaining the same meaning, or as was early custom in terms of “standing”; the “tenants ‘under stand’ the landlord”, or conversely, the “landlord ‘stand over’ his tenants”.
What this really means in modern use of the language is no different. When a court asks “do you understand?” the correct response would be “I comprehend your words, but I do not stand under (understand) your authority.” The rules of court clearly state that definitions of both words and phrases as they apply in law may not always be the same as those that apply or that are common in daily language usage outside of the law! So NEVER say to a court, that “you under-stand them”, because this clearly provides them with your consent to be under their jurisdiction – “under their standing”, even if you have established yourself as a real live flesh and blood man of God, and even if all you intended to state, was that you “comprehend” them!
Think of this. I am a man of God and everywhere I go I am standing in God’s Kingdom. An officer of some man’s court asks me to attend at his court. When I walk into a room that he alleges to be his court, even at his request, I have not yet stepped into his jurisdiction, because I am always standing in God’s kingdom. It then is of no significance what my name is or how it is written, but it is then of paramount importance that I make my declaration of WHERE I am standing! Anyone in that room may ask me my name. My response is simple and straight forward. “I am a man of God standing in God’s Kingdom, Where do you stand?” Or I might say; “I am a man of God standing in God’s Kingdom, where are you?”
Of course there are many possible responses that a statement such as this may elicit. One of the most probable responses is for the judge to say something like this; “This is my court and you are in my court”. He may even demand that because he “says” you are standing in his court, that you “give the court your name”. There are also many possible responses you might offer. For example, “I am in God’s Kingdom and my name is not for you, do you not have a name of your own?” Or I might say; “I am in God’s Kingdom and you say this is your court, please explain to me where your court is (or where your court stands)?” If he says his court is “right here”, then I might say; “I am standing in God’s Kingdom, are you also?”
The bottom line with this truthful reasoning is simple. I will always be standing in God’s Kingdom and that is all I am required to declare. Without exception, I will only ask him where he is standing or if he is standing in God’s Kingdom or where his court stands. I might even walk over to his side on his bench if he says something like “my court is right here in this room (or this room is my court).” If I did walk to his place (“right here”) behind this bench,
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then he will undoubtedly ask me to go back to what he will claim to be “my place”, or order me to “stand there”, to which I would simply ask; “Is that your court over there because a moment ago you said this right here (point to where he sits) was your court. Is your court in God’s Kingdome, because I stand in God’s Kingdom?”
If I was in a challenging mood, I might ask the judge; “Can you show me where God’s Kingdom ends and your court begins, because at this time I stand in God’s Kingdom and I do not understand where your court is?” Do you think he will declare that God’s Kingdom ends outside of his alleged court room? You might hope so but do not count on it. If he did make such an unlikely statement, my response would be; “I assure you that I am standing in God’s Kingdom, therefore your opinion of God’s Kingdom is mistaken. You say your court is not in God’s Kingdom then I am not in your court and I am not able to understand where your court is.”
Now you might conclude that many possible variations of dialogue could ensue. It does not matter what the court officers state, as long as I maintain my simple declaration of being a man standing in God’s Kingdom. My declaration is true, it is sound, and above all, no man can prove it to be otherwise. The judge can never bring himself to acknowledge that he is attempting to operate outside of God’s Kingdom, hence the judge will never gain jurisdiction over me. And he cannot confirm that he is willing to operate inside of God’s Kingdom, because inside of God’s Kingdom the judge is merely another man and no man has ever been granted authority over another by God.
Which brings up one more point? I may ask the judge something like; “Are you a judge in (this) your court that you cannot find for me?” If he says; “I am a judge in this (or my) court”, then I would respond with, “You testify that you are therefore not a man and that: you do not stand in God’s Kingdom, as God alone declares Himself as Judge in His Kingdom. As I am now standing in God’s Kingdom, I bid you farewell and may God bless you with understanding of His Kingdom.”
You might also consider that upon making your declaration of where YOU stand, that you add the following underlined words: “I am a man of God standing in God’s Kingdom, and I can only see other men, my brothers standing in this room with me in God’s Kingdom.” This will leave the judge in the very uncomfortable and inescapable position of not being able to respond in either the affirmative or the negative. He will try to simply ignore your statement.
He cannot agree that he and the other court officers are also “men of God”, as in so doing; he would be negating his own alleged authority. He also cannot disagree with you and say that he and the other court officers are not of God’s Kingdom, because this would be tantamount to admitting Treason and breach of Office (in spite of it being true). Because he cannot then identify who HE is, you cannot understand how he can proceed and you state this to him. Then you have him in the position where his only choice of action is to dismiss the court room because he literally cannot make a response that will not cause him indefinitely more grief that what he and his court officers intended to inflict upon you.
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The document can be downloaded for print; Who You Are doc.. It is easier to read from the doc. because of the bold fonts used that I just couldn't type out again
This makes more sense than any of that other stuff Ive read to date, i think all these three posts are related here for anybody looking further into this.....
what you have posted is also on the forum of the website in the following link if you google search it, not sure if you have checked out this site yet but it ties in exactly with what is being said above.
Go raibh maith agat Saighdiúir Dé....................
do you have the exact page my friend?
In the following link mid way on the post
all you need to do is copy a large chunk of the text from your post and paste into google it will then throw up anywhere its been posted online previously..
Saighdiúir Dé said:
do you have the exact page my friend?
Thanks my friend!
tá failte romhat, nice one for posting it in the first place, as it really brings together what I've been researching for the last week or so.
I'm beginning to come around to what that Owlmon character is trying to get across, if all law originated from the bible and you claim to live under its instructions only (you don't really have to but just to make your life easier dealing with these government clowns from time to time) then why would you be bothered with all that trust law mind set?
It really over complicates a very simple solution that is just sitting in front of us as described by Saighdiúir Dé in this post above. All the time spent trawling through legislation, acts, statutes looking for these little bits of evidence that prove we are either under government jurisdiction or not seems pretty pointless, birth certs long hand, small hand, we still are unsure what is the live birth record here!, what can that possibly offer to us that some basic understanding of the bible cant? Even Dean Clifford spoke about people just travelling with a bible and their name written at the back in Canada, using this as their ID.
yes we are repulsed by the book for the simple reason that the people who brought its message in more recent times were also responsible for untold amounts of death, destruction and pretty much every kind of the most depraved despicable deed imaginable that can be brought upon man, animal or anything with a spec of good in it. But now we are more wise and can see things we didn't before why not use it for our betterment? Its real that it can be used for our betterment, there is no difference in learning off and understanding a few bits of the bible as there is to understanding all that trust law material in my opinion. You don't need a big eureka moment either to finally get it in your mind, as it is what it is, I'm in Gods kingdom and live under the direction of the bible, they are not.
In the first sentence of the Irish constitution its as plain as day for us.....
Ar mbeith dúinne, muintir na hÉireann, ag admháil go huiríseal a mhéid atáimid faoi chomaoin ag Íosa Críost, ár dTiarna Dia
We, the people of Éire, Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ
This here is worth a read...
King James Version (KJV)
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus plainly told the Jews in Matthew 5:20, “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.” That is a very interesting statement which our Lord makes. Jesus acknowledges that the Pharisees and scribes DO have some form of righteousness, but it is not acceptable with God. How could righteousness not be acceptable to God? Romans 10:3,4 gives us the answer, “For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." There are two types of righteousness: (1) Man's self-righteousness, and then (2) The righteousness of God which is in Christ Jesus. In Philippians 3:9 the Apostle Paul so beautifully states, “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.”
Again you don't have to believe these words but it aint no difference in understand trust law!
As many people over time have been saying, filing all that paper work with the courts and constantly going in fighting battles with them is just feeding their system and keeping the whole charade going and going, walk in walk out..............
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven
Just think about what is being siad here, for you to enter heaven you must believe in Íosa and believe in message of god, and be more righteous in your beliefs than any judge on the land, otherwise no dice....
what is Íosa and gods message? that no other man is better than any other or has any more power than anyone else, that all the resources of the planet belong to us all and not a select few at the top etc etc, so in essense isnt Íosa's message exactly what is spoken on here day in day out, so following the directions result in your consciousness and awareness rising to that of a completly free, peaceful and kind being, i can see what he means because if we all did like he said and accept no other mans rule over us but also live through the message of helping others, poor, unhealthy etc,... doing no harm i guess, we would be living in a image of heaven, it would keep rising and rising.
for now id be happy to settle for it rising enough to deal with these so called Judges.
its the very same as freeman man philosophy tuning your mind to that of someone who grants zero authroity over them to anyone else but respecting, helping and living life in a completely free, positive and productive way with the one difference that the courts cant deal with someone who solely lives under the directions of the bible, they have no authority or jurisdiction and cant coerce you into leaving that area of true freedom, its only a book but a powerful one!
A fine thread by; "who wants to know"
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