My child has been taken by the MCFD ( ministry of child and family development) if I become a freeperson must they be legally obliged to give him back to me?

[hez kez]

Hi,
I am in a serious dominos game with the MCFD and social services.

I am a great mother to my son and because I had a person living with me that was not supposed to be there the MCFD have taken him into foster care.

Not only that, but I have just been informed that social services will not be issuing me a cheque this month unless I go to a doctor and get a note stating that I have an addiction (weed)... I have no idea what this has to do with me recieving a wellfare cheque- except for I know my MCFD worker had spoken to the wellfare worker and played a major role in the cheque not being issued. Nor was I given any notice of this happening (I was supposed to recieve a cheque at the end of this month).

If I have no place to live, I wont get my child back. I am cautious about going to a doctor and having the fact that I have an addiction on my medical file as I fear the MCFD will use this against me in getting my son back.

I would like to know if becoming a Freeperson would absolve the MCFD of their power to keep my son in foster care- ANY info on this would be GREATLY appreciated...

...and I am aware I can no longer recieve wellfare cheques but I am normally a hard working painter so it doesnt matter much to me... ;)

Peace, justice and light,

Hez

[Morgan Freeman]

Can you tell us more of this person who was not supposed to be living with you?

[hez kez]

yes- he is my babys daddy- wasnt supposed to live with me due to a domestic back in june 14, 2011 ( threw me against a wall). As a result, we had a no contact order. He came to me a month ago because he was being evicted from his place due to wellfare not paying for his last 2 months rent. I didnt want to see him on the streets ( i know firsthand how tough it is out there on the streets), SO i thought I was doing my son a service by keeping his daddy safe as possible and letting him stay with me. things were fine in the beginning (as they always are) but eventually we began fighting. I can control my anger but he cant. there were a couple of instances where he was raising his voice- and i said ' keep it down; this is MY place and you cannot yell here. he wouldn't listen; NOW I ASK ANYONE what one should do in this position- call the police? ( ya right... once he is caught in my house the MCFD would keep my son for even LONGER) ... remove him physically ( not possible)...so i was stuck. He would not leave. I asked him to many, many times. Then he missed one of his PO appointments and they came looking for him - and my landlord tipped them off ( probably due to the yelling; also he had a very distinguishable neck tattoo)... police came by unannounced one day and saw he (babys daddy) was there just as i was about to get my son back. Yes- I was just about to get my son back. now not at all-- im back to square one which could take up to another year.

NOW...that would be fine with me if i believed my son were in a good place with the foster mother. He has had 6 injuries that have needeed a doctors attention ( 2x stitches) AND he currently has a bad eye infection because she hasnt had his hair cut (in 7 months) and its hanging in his eyes. I have asked for a haircut or to be seen by a doctor; to which she refused cuz she is lazy- I currently have supervised visits at her house and all she does is play solitare on the computer. When does she interact with my son? I know a crucial part of a childs development at this age is 1 on 1 contact- and i am not seeing hm getting that from her . OH- BTW... this foster mother also has 5 other kids in her care , is 65 years old with a hip replacement so bad she cant even lift him (my son). NOBODY is going to love that boy more than me and the simple fact that I AM a good mother and take far better care of him than she does is a slap in my face. Of course, I am trying to keep things cordial between the foster mother and me , as this is the best for my son obviously, but I cant help but be astounded that the MCFD believes that this is what is best for my son... they have way too much power and not enough brains... hope this helps a bit for your understanding of what is going on
peace and light
hez

[Kev]

I'm very sorry to hear about this you must be going through a very tough time. If only it were as simple as asserting your rights as a freeman but unfortunately it isn't. Can you tell us the law that was used to to take your child. What statutes where used and so on - you might have a better angle by tackling the legality of it first. You have rights as a parent and your child has rights too. without knowing the full ins and outs you might have a better chance tackling it from this angle? On a side note, if you get a letter from the doctor saying you are an addict it will most likely be used against you to your detriment. It would be better to get a letter saying you are of sound mind and fit to parent, get character references from people if you can - ideally if you could get a reference from a local priest, doctor and police officer saying you are of good character and standing this can be used later in your defence in court. Whether justified or not, the MCFD believe they are acting in your childs best interest and they must think that the environment isn't good - it wouldn't have been a bad idea to call the police - for a domestic (without physical violence) they don't usually press charges as it's a civil matter and it would have stood to you to have a report to that effect - It would show that you were putting your childs welfare first when things started to change. I hope this has been some help.

[hez kez]

Thank you for your time and thought that went into your response. You have made some very good points that I will be acting on.

I will point out an interesting fact: the MCFD does not differentiate between physical and non physical violence. They simply refer to it all as violence... and we all know there is a MASSIVE difference between the two.(Manipulation of the english language such as in this case is a lot of where their power comes from).

This is the reason I did not call the police. In addition, I later talked to my MCFD worker, and she admitted I would still be in trouble for having my ex there.

[Morgan Freeman]

Hi Kez, please listen to the mp3 below then listen to it again. It may not be easy listening, but in my opinion it is vital listening. The mp3 has a few references to biblical law, please don't let this put you off from the central message.

The mp3 deals primarily with the doctrine of Parens Patriae and how "WE" enable the state. I look forward to the day when you are reunited with you child, and try not to beat yourself up about your current circumstances. You are not alone.

http://library.georgegordon.com/audio/download/1569/340f-32.mp3

[hez kez]

Hi Morgan,

I am from Canada, so I'm not sure how much this may apply to me...I am sure the laws are much different-

[Kev]

It might be a long shot but you could try contacting Rob Menard a Canadian pioneer in the Freeman Movement. He began his journey in similar circumstances as yourself when his daughter was taken by the state. He couldn't understand why so he started reading the whole of blacks law dictionary. I'm sure he would be sympathetic to your problem and he's a quite approachable. You can find him on FB https://www.facebook.com/robert.menard.52

[Kev]

Oh and another thing - try to thing of everything you're doing as preparation for a future court case - whether or not this actually happens. You need to imagine what would stand to you if you were to present the case to a judge. I don't know the ins and outs so don't know why you'd be in trouble for having your ex there but would a reasonable judge or jury be able to understand your reasoning? And bear in mind, the government workers might be telling u things that aren't entirely true - this is why it's crucial to check the actual laws being used against you.

[Spirality]

Robert Menard is also a member here http://freemanireland.ning.com/profile/RobertAMenard

[Finnegan]

Hi hk , Have you managed to get anywhere in dealing with this ? I really hope you have . "Weed addiction " , pfffft!!