Staking a claim on your property.

[Marcus of the clan De Bruin]

I am aware of a process from American tutors that allow you to claim your land. They do it by staking the four corners of the property, getting gps co ords and submitting a claim via a form. Can anyone advise how it is done here in Ireland if anyone on here has done this?
Based on the Maxim that "He who owns the soil owns up to the sky"

This would assist people when it comes to property tax. Any advice or tips greatly appreciated.

[A Solas]

I don't think you will be able to own land with the mentality of the masses as it is, just my opinion though, a term you might want to look into is "Allodial Title" , there was some discussions here about it before.

http://freemanireland.ning.com/main/search/search?q=allodial

[Marcus of the clan De Bruin]

Thanks for that. I found that difficult to read but it goes towards where I am coming from.
As a Soverign I want to make a rightful claim to the land I live on as part of the Republic (private) as opposed to the Democracy (public). I would love to know the Brehon law requirements to land ownership / stewardship. My claim would be as a carer for the land, not an ownership. I know I cannot own the land, it owns us, it is a gift fom God ( who cannot be proved or unproved as to existence). Beyond the bible, we have older more clearer texts known as maxims. Maxims are as old as the rocks.

In any event, I will look further into this.I firmly believe a staking a claim is a path for people even if that claim is an Alodial title. It is a Soverign claim I want for myself and my brothers and sisters who choose to be Soverign and self governed.

[Kev]

The maxim concerning the soil to the heavens is limited in case law to mean only the amount that you reasonably need to enjoy your land, as such planes can fly over your house without trespass. You can however claim all the minerals below your land (down to hell).

Can you be a bit more specific in what you're asking Marcus. Are you talking about claiming land or claiming your home? If it's your home you need to own it outright i.e. not be paying a mortgage cos if you are paying a mortgage you technically don't own your property. One thing to bear in mind is that Bunreacht holds that the 'Dwelling' is inviolable. An Solas is right though the mentality of 'Land Ownership' is a slight fallacy cos you can't own the land, if anything we belong to it. You can however stand upon the land as a steward by putting it to good productive use. If you're talking about claiming land this is fairly easy to do, but you will need to hold it for 12 years if their is some other potential owner who might have a claim over it but I can tell you what you need to do.

[honesty]

When it comes to the property tax, the State 'owns' all property registered to it, so the State is liable for all property taxes as trustee of the 'your name' account. 'The people' can't OWN anything. We can have the right to use things, like property, but we can't OWN anything, & really, neither can the state, but if it claims ownership, & your 'title' cites you are 'resident', you are not the title owner, so not the liable party. These demands are unlawful, they are legal. We are lawful people that cannot participate with a legal fiction unless we agree to BEING a legal fiction. There must be a meeting of the minds, according to the maxims of law. lawful person/lawful person. Legal entity(officer) Legal entity. We are not officers. When an 'officer' comes uninvited to your home, they are assuming that your home is an office & you are a corporation, otherwise they are accountable under the law as human common folk. You can claim a right to the property, but only to have use of it. & the State itself cannot say you don't have a right to do so. If the State can't, agents can't...

[Marcus of the clan De Bruin]

Hi Kev,
I am learning all to well about the mortgage situation.
I am seeking a claim on the land in an effort to remove it from the land registry. In essencce I am seeking a private claim, not necessarily ownership. Eventually I want to get an allodial title to it. I nned to do a bit more research and then ai I might know enough to put my question together better.

Cheers,

Marcus
Kev said:

The maxim concerning the soil to the heavens is limited in case law to mean only the amount that you reasonably need to enjoy your land, as such planes can fly over your house without trespass. You can however claim all the minerals below your land (down to hell).

Can you be a bit more specific in what you're asking Marcus. Are you talking about claiming land or claiming your home? If it's your home you need to own it outright i.e. not be paying a mortgage cos if you are paying a mortgage you technically don't own your property. One thing to bear in mind is that Bunreacht holds that the 'Dwelling' is inviolable. An Solas is right though the mentality of 'Land Ownership' is a slight fallacy cos you can't own the land, if anything we belong to it. You can however stand upon the land as a steward by putting it to good productive use. If you're talking about claiming land this is fairly easy to do, but you will need to hold it for 12 years if their is some other potential owner who might have a claim over it but I can tell you what you need to do.