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Permalink Reply by eiru on August 6, 2009 at 1:24
Permalink Reply by kevin-william: walton on August 6, 2009 at 11:16
Permalink Reply by Kev on August 6, 2009 at 12:07 Excellent work Kev, have to say I like Rowans idea of everybody changing a few of the questions to make sure their actually answering them individually and not just enmasse...
Can I assume our next move, if you don't get satisfaction, will maybe, be some form of report filed with the garda/DPP against the government and water treatment companies ???
How about some form of Public Notice being filed against any and all dentists who promote the use of fluoridated toothpaste, like in adverts on TV ??? As a simple case in promoting it into public awareness ???
Permalink Reply by Kev on August 6, 2009 at 14:23
Permalink Reply by Kev on August 6, 2009 at 14:25
Permalink Reply by kevin-william: walton on August 6, 2009 at 14:48
Permalink Reply by Christopher on August 6, 2009 at 14:52 Hopefully that should stir a response - I hope the notices are stacking up on the desks at this stage!
Permalink Reply by Kev on August 6, 2009 at 15:05 hi kev, did you send a notice to each of the names above ?
Kevin:Flanagan said:Hopefully that should stir a response - I hope the notices are stacking up on the desks at this stage!
Permalink Reply by kevin-william: walton on August 6, 2009 at 15:15 Oooh bit synchro buzzz! Im actually writing up the reponse now so watch this space, i've a few tricks up my sleeve - well im gonna try something out.
guys the thing to realise is so far they've given me f* all! Fair enough i got a fancy gold harp on a letter from the Taoiseachs Office but they've basicaly ignored me - a 'wish to acknowledge' is not an acknowledgment ;-) I love your idea about the Dentists it's a good angle to take so let us know how you'd see that panning out maybe an example notice?
I'll pop up the notice when im done.
Peace.
kevin-william: walton said:Excellent work Kev, have to say I like Rowans idea of everybody changing a few of the questions to make sure their actually answering them individually and not just enmasse...
Can I assume our next move, if you don't get satisfaction, will maybe, be some form of report filed with the garda/DPP against the government and water treatment companies ???
How about some form of Public Notice being filed against any and all dentists who promote the use of fluoridated toothpaste, like in adverts on TV ??? As a simple case in promoting it into public awareness ???
Permalink Reply by gabriel logue on August 7, 2009 at 21:51
Permalink Reply by Rowan-Stephen: Murphy on August 8, 2009 at 18:30
Permalink Reply by Kev on August 9, 2009 at 11:49 Michael Scanlan - Secretary-General
Department of Health and Children,
Hawkins House,
Hawkins St,
Dublin 2
Date:
Served by way of registered mail. Number:
Notice of Distress with Order for Clarification:
Dear Sir,
It is my understanding that Hydrofluorosilicic Acid (aka Fluoride) has been added to Ireland’s Water Supply since the early 1960’s and that the reason given by the Government at the time was to improve dental health care in Ireland and lower Decayed, Missing & Filled Teeth Rates (DMFT).
This became ‘mandatory legislation’ as opposed to ‘enabling legislation’ meaning the Men and Women of Ireland did not have a choice and in fact were not even asked if they wanted this chemical added to the water supplies. It is noted in the Oireachtas Draft Report on Water Fluoridation (1999) that Mr. Paddy Murray, Assistant Secretary to the Minister for health raised these concerns at the time (1958) deeming mandatory legislation as ‘unconstitutional’.
It is my assumption that the Government of the day decided to go ahead with this anyway as they felt the Dental Hygiene of Irish Men and Women to be more important than protecting their inalienable and invincible rights under the Constitution. They may have been acting with good intentions based on the information available to them at the time. However in this current day we have more information pertaining to fluoride of water which suggests that it is in fact detrimental to our Health and should not be added.
Putting the negative health implications aside for a moment, DMFT levels in countries which have fluoridated water do not show any considerable difference to those without fluoride. In some cases DMFT levels are higher in Fluoridated countries. This further suggests that the Fluoridation of water does not benefit our teeth and only shows that dental health care has generally improved, much like our general health care.
It is my understanding that modern research regarding water fluoridation including independent research, research conducted by the World Health Organization and research in China states, among other things, that excessive ingestion of fluoride can accumulate in the brain, permanently lowering IQ. While conducting my own research on this I discovered that the first time Fluoride was used in water was by the Nazis, on the Jews in Hitler’s concentration camps. The reason it was added then was to keep the inmates ‘docile’. Fluoride is a common ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, anaesthetics, hypnotics, psychiatric drugs and military nerve gas.
It is my understanding that the Fluoride added to Ireland's water supply is in actuality a by-product from the waste of the fertilizer industry in Holland. It is not ‘natural’ fluoride and would be costly to dispose of. The Irish Government and therefore the Men and Women of Ireland are paying for this toxic chemical, which has no proven health benefits, to be added to their water.
Please note this quote from the World Health Organizations website: “Benefits of water fluoridation are over-stated. Tooth brushing with toothpaste and diets low in sugar are the true oral health solutions. There is no need to fluoridate the water supply”.
Also in a recent European court ruling, it has been decided that since there are 2 separate classifications under which fluoridated water is recognized, A) fluoridated water is considered a 'fortified food', and B) fluoridated water is considered medication and that 1 classification or regulation must take precedent over the other. The European Court of Justice deems Fluoridated water to be ‘medicinal water’ and cannot be considered the equivalent of mandatory ‘water for human consumption’. (HLH Warenvertriebs and Orthica (Joined Cases C-211/03, C-299/03, C-316/03 and C-318/03) 9 June 2005). The Government has a moral duty and a legal obligation to cease the mass medication of the Irish people.
I hereby state that the representatives of the people of Ireland have a duty to serve the people according the peoples wishes. The Men & Women of Ireland were not consulted on this matter and were not asked for their consent. I hereby state to you that I do not consent. I stand on the belief that fluoridated water is not only harmful to our health it is an attack on our well being and a violation of our God given inalienable rights. I reserve my right to bodily integrity and put it to you that failing to give the Men & Women of Ireland a choice in this matter is an infringement on our rights. You have given us no choice but to drink this contaminated ‘water’ and your failure to remedy this situation holds you all culpable.
As you might gather I am quite distressed regarding this matter and I am writing to you to engage in dialogue, seek clarification and remedy.
1. Explain how fluoride being added to the water is a benefit to teeth if water is instantly ingested taking into account that a number of researchers have shown fluorides benefits to be locally as opposed to systemically.
2. What are the medical effects of ingesting fluoride?
3. Give me the details of, and reasons why the Government of Ireland decided Mandatory Legislation was necessary in spite of its unconstitutional nature, and take into account the apparent trivial nature of the issue.
4. Did the Government of Ireland call for independent testing or any practical, medical or scientific research on both the physiological and the neurological aspects of this matter before making the decision to add fluoride to the water supplies? If so please outline the details.
5. Has the government acted on the previously mentioned information?
6. Has the Irish Government conducted any research that leads them to say unequivocally and without doubt that fluoridated water is not harmful to the people of Ireland in any way?
7. Has the Irish Government taken any steps in response to any modern scientific research which suggests that fluoride is harmful to our health or have they been negligent in that respect? If so please outline.
8. What is the approximate annual cost to the Irish People for both the purchase and addition of fluoride to our water?
9.Is the government actually concerned with the health of the men, women and children of this country or is it negligent in that respect? If not please outline what steps it has taken in the last 5 years to insure that water fluoridation is of no harm to any man, woman or child ingesting it?
10. Are you actually concerned with the health of the men, women and children of this country or are you negligent in that respect? If not what are you going to do in relation to this matter?
11. Please outline the entire spectrum of additives currently added to Ireland's water supply, state and detail intended function of each additive, and provide me with accurate details of the research showing that each additive is neurologically safe for human beings, physiologically safe for human beings and effective in accordance with its intended purpose.
12. Please state and detail the reasons why the current classification of fluoridated water as a medication have been ignored outright.
13. Please state your regard for, and intended plan of action relating to, the aforementioned European court ruling.
14. Please state your oath of office.
To re-iterate it is my understanding that fluoridated water is detrimental to and an attack on the mental, physical and spiritual health of both me and my fellow countrymen, it is an infringement and attack on our inalienable rights, particularly the right the bodily integrity, and shows deliberate and malicious negligence on the part of the Government of Ireland towards we the people of Ireland and it is also now recognized as medication. Failure to respond to any of the above points will further reinforce these beliefs and it would leave me with a duty and no other choice but to take lawful action against you and/or will mean you accept my right to answer these questions myself and then notify you as my representative.
Please note this is not a letter, it is a Lawful Notice sent via registered post.
Please respond to this notice in no later than 14 days from the above date via registered post. Responses given not under oath and full commercial liability will be considered estoppal. Please note that failure to any points I have raised in the manner am demanding gives me the right and duty to answer all of them for you. Should you not have an oath of office I will provide one for you, and to it I shall hold you.
In peace, honour, respect and dignity,
By: ________________________. .
Rowan-Stephen: Murphy
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