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Interesting video, thanks for posting. I'd not previously heard anything about any of the players mentioned in the video. I have carried out a little research, and added some of my thoughts below. Due to nings 4000 character limit per post I have posted my response in 3 parts.
Mr Philip Hollobone is one of four conservative members of parliament responsible for the introduction of some 42 Bills. The 42 bills include legislation to, scrap wind farms, reintroduce the death penalty, privatisation of the BBC, banning the wearing of the burka in public places, conscription, and perhaps the most heinous and dastardly of all, legislation to rename the August Bank Holiday “Margaret Thatcher Day”.
All of the proposals put forward by Mr Hollobone and Co. were laid before the House of Commons on the 19th of June. The four conservative members of parliament responsible for the bills managed to introduce them by taking advantage of an obscure Parliamentary procedure by camping out in Westminster for four successive nights. One of Mr Hollobone's cohorts, Mr Peter Bone, said: “This is serious attempt to deliver policies that the British public really want. There are ideas here that could form the basis of a future Conservative manifesto.” If it is the case that the British public want to live in a society where the death penalty is reintroduced, young men and women are conscripted into military service, and the August bank holiday is renamed, “Margret Thatcher Day,” all is already lost, utterly lost.
Of course this is not the case at all, for what is the public but a multitude of individuals, and any man who professes to know the mind of the multitude is utterly mistaken, unless of course, he has taken the time and consideration to consult every member of his society. I sincerely doubt that Mr Hollobone and his cohorts have taken the time to consult with the British public on such a scale, as it is an impossible task. Granted it may be the case that many of the constituents of Mr's Hollobone, Bone, Chope, Nuttall, and Davies, are indeed calling for such legislation, and as representatives of their constituents it may well be their duty, be it real or imagined, to introduce those bills on behalf of their constituents, and by doing so they have indeed widened the debate to the state of affairs where you and I, i.e. Joe public are discussing it and breathing life into it. It must be remembered that only a minority of private members' Bills become law, but by creating publicity around an issue, they may affect legislation indirectly, it may be most wise to reflect on that. The probability of this bill becoming law might be slight in the extreme, and not worth worrying about at all. Mr Hollobone tried unsucessfuly to introduce the same bill in 2010 , that bill failed to complete its passage through Parliament before the end of session. Thus the bill made no further progress.
Never the less, as a result of the actions of Mr Hollobone and Co. they have once more brought these bills and the ideas contained within them to public consciousness. As such, it presents us with an opportunity to examine the ideas expressed within the Bills, and affords us an opportunity to correct the rational of men and women who would willingly send other men and women, against their wills, to kill another men and women. We need to understand the minds of these people, if only to enable us to correct them, and stop them from causing future harm. In my heart I know this is possible. I have carried out a little research into Mr Hollobone and Co and would now like to present my initial findings, and offer my thoughts as to how this type of man comes to think of conscription as a good idea. For it is often easier to channel the living than the dead, in order to gain insight.
Philip Hollobone was educated at Dulwich College, London and Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford where he was awarded a Bachelor of Arts degree in Modern History and Economics. He was a prominent member of the Oxford University branch of the Monday Club. In 1984, he worked as a voluntary teacher in Honduras with a Baptist mission. He worked for various companies as an industry research analyst between 1987 and 2003 and was in the Territorial Army for eight years.
Seeing as Mr Hollobone spent eight years in the Territorial Army, and is indeed in favour of conscription. I think I am on safe ground to assume that Mr Hollobone found his time in the Territorial Army to be of great use to him. Perhaps it was even the making of the man. For I have heard that very statement uttered many times, by many people who have spent time in military service, or at least words to that effect. You may have heard them too? You know how it goes, the person who was in the military usually says to you in a rather serious and somber tone, “Yes, life in the military was a hard slog, and all the personal debasement and humiliation was almost too much to bear at times. I still have nightmares in my waking and sleeping life about all those men,women and children I murdered, not to mention the suffering and distress I caused their families, and I miss the company of my fallen comrades. But hey! It made a man out of me, and look! I have this shiny medal and lollipop to prove it. God Bless Queen and County!”
In fact, Mr Hollobone, must have found his time in the Army to be of such usefulness, that he now wishes for all of us to share in its usefulness, perhaps it will make men of us all, or at the very least make us more agreeable to Mr Hollobone. I do wonder if Mr Hollobone has ever had to partake in the end product of military training, i.e. the taking of another's life? Has he ever taken another mans life? Has he taken more than one mans life. Or has he yet to partake in the taking of life at all? It might well be the case that Mr Hollobone has only completed the training required of a solider, and has never had to put his training into action, if he has, the I fail to understand how he could still be in favour of military conscription.
As I think on what it must be like to be Mr Hollobone I can't help but wonder if Mr Hollobone would have found his experience of life in the Territorial Army so useful had he been there under compulsion? Perhaps it would make no difference at all, as the desire to join up was always already within him. But what if he was to be compelled to partake in something he had no stomach for? Would he still sing the praises of conscription, all be it in a different context? I think most certainly not, for all compulsion is pain, and only the unwisest of men inflict pain on themselves. Unwise men are often misguided in their efforts to bring about the general good, and they soon loose sight of the simple fact that, what is often pleasurable and of use to one man is unpleasurable and of no use to another man. For all compulsion is pain, and it is only the cruelest of men who inflict pain on others willingly.
In his own mind, I am sure Mr Hollobone is convinced that he is acting in the best interest of the many and he believes his intentions to be both good and honorable, alas, we know all to well, that the road to hell is indeed paved with the good intentions of men. I call on the community at large to come to Mr Hollobones aid, for he needs our help more than most, he needs us to show him the error in his rational, and if we are to succeed in correcting his error we must be mindful to do it in the spirit of friendship, and not in an adversarial, knee-jerk reactionary, confrontational fashion.
I honestly and sincerely doubt that this bill will pass into law, but that is not to say that a similar bill could become law at some stage all be it via a different route. These laws have been introduced in the past, and as we well know history does have a tendency to repeat itself. We must as ever remain, vigilant, calm, and cool headed when dealing with such issues.
1. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6999174.ece2. http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/laws/bills/private-members/3. http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2010-11/nationalservice.html4. http://www.conservatives.com/People/Members_of_Parliament/Hollobone...5. https://login.thetimes.co.uk/?gotoUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.co.... (registration required to view article.)6. http://www.conservatives.com/People/Members_of_Parliament/Hollobone...7. ^ Passmore, Valerie, ed. (2009). Dod's Parliamentary Companion 2012. London: Dods. p. 198. ISBN 978-0-905702-89-6.8. http://www.conservatives.com/People/Members_of_Parliament/Hollobone...
A. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_HolloboneB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_BoneC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_ChopeD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_NuttallE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Davies
This is frightening- I'm going to get Irish Citizenship for my son coz he aint being cannon fodder for no one!! And God help those traitors in the Dail if they send Irish citizens to fight unjust wars- I think they should be prosecuted for treason anyway, never mind if they sink that low!
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